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Grip It Right: The JumboMax Revolution

• Jesse Perryman

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Unlock the power of your golf game through innovative grip technology with JumboMax. This episode showcases how the right grip size and weight can transform your performance on the course. 

• Introduction of John Mazzinoble owner of Jumbo Max Grips 
• Discussion around the historical perceptions of golf grips 
• Importance of fitting grips to your hand size for optimal control 
• Exploring the impact of grip weight on swing dynamics 
• Insights from user experience with Jumbo Max grips 
• Encouragement to utilize the Jumbo Max fitting app 

Don't forget to check out JumboMax.com and follow them on social media for more insights and product options!

To reach Jesse, text at (831)275-8804

To reach Justin, his email is justin@elitegolfswing.com

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to another edition of the Flag Hunters Golf Podcast. I am Jesse Perryman, your host, along with my brother from another mother, justin Tang, who is an instructor at the Tanamera Golf Club in Singapore. We welcome you to another great edition. And this week we've got my friend and now we are aligned and his name is John Mazinobu. He is the owner operator of Jumbo Max Grips. We've had him on before, but this time we're going into a little bit more depth of the phenomenon that is Jumbo Max.

Speaker 1:

Jumbo Max has cracked the code when it comes to golf grips. For years, the golf grips have been somewhat unexamined and accepted as whatever. The players of yesteryear knew the importance of counterweighting and having grips fit their hands and how they perform with the golf club, because it's an essential part. Obviously, it's your only connection to a golf club, but what Jumbo Max has done is they've added some fitting. Now you can really optimize the golf club. You can get the most out of the golf club based on what your intentions are. You could download an app. They actually have a fitting app for grips for the first time, I think. Before we just figured out what felt good in our hands and accepted whatever that was, whereas now we can get really consciously intentional with not only the comfortability of the grip but actually how the golf club performs in space.

Speaker 1:

So in the episode we talk about getting fitted to have the golf club balance out and to manage closer rates. If you're a flipper and you want to get rid of flipping, we got a solution for that. If you want to counterbalance the golf club, we got a solution for that. If you want to counterbalance the golf club, we got a solution for that. If you want to feel like you have a little bit more weight in the head a personal preference for me they could do that. So for the first time really, we can get into the depths and really design the performance of the golf club to how the practitioner wants to do it, and we have a fitting system for it. And the app is if you just go on any of the app stores or Google Play and you type in Jumbo Max, it'll come up to it and really the weighting of the golf, of the, of the grips, the, the weighting is crucial to the balance point of the golf swing. So all of these phenomenon are discussed in this brief episode and I'm to highly encourage every single listener to go in and just take a look or at least maybe question why a golf, certain golf club feels good in the bag, or you get performance out of one golf club and you don't out of another. And it could be grip, it could very well be the weighting of the grip, it could be the thickness, the size of the grip. That is a variable, and an important one at that, since our hands are the only connection to the golf club. So I would encourage each listener to go on JumboMaxcom, check it out, go on to any of the socials Jumbo Max on Instagram, particularly, where you have brand ambassadors that are exemplifying players on all the various tours, that are exemplifying the use of these grips and how it's benefiting them.

Speaker 1:

And I myself, personally, am a practitioner. I use them and they have benefited me tremendously. They really have, and I'll give you a brief example before we get into the main body of the podcast. I like to feel a little bit of delay at the top. I like to feel the club slot and drop somewhat on its own. I like to feel the gravity of it, and before I switched to Jumbo Max, I had a very hard time replicating this very phenomenon in my golf swing. And then, when I switched to Jumbo Max, I played the Zen Lights, the standard jumbos. Just for anybody who's curious, they're not ginormous, they're slightly bigger than a midsize. I found myself slotting the club easier. I found the club dropping down into the right hip pocket easier with a lighter grip where I could feel the club head drop in transition and I'm able to keep my shoulders closed just a little bit longer to be able to explode into the finish, and I think that that has played a major part. In the seven months that I've been using Jumbo Max and have had this revelation have similar experiences where it has really benefited their golf swings and hence their ball striking. So give them a look.

Speaker 1:

Jumbomaxcom Owner is John Mazinobu. You can go onto their socials and check them out. A lot of great players are using them these days and more and more collegiate players are using them, and it's not just a thing. This is very real and a very strong possibility that can potentially help your game without even thinking about your golf swing, just by simply getting fitted for the grip, trying them and go out on the golf course and see what happens. Eventually we're going to come up with a unique code, uh to help direct you and give you a little bit of a discount for jumbo max. Uh, so check them out.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate you listening and don't forget to rate, review and subscribe everyone. I hope you're having a great week. The golf season is almost upon us and these are things that that maybe you could take a look at. Cheers everyone. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Flag Hunters Golf Podcast. This is thank you for tuning in along on behalf and along with my podcast partner, justin Tang, out of the Tanamera Golf Club in Singapore. This is going to be a series of conversations that we've had that we will have with the owner and operator of Jumbo Max Grips. His name is John Mazinobu. He's a good friend of mine and he's been on the pod before, but we are now officially aligning with Jumbo Max grips. We're going to be as a part of their ambassadorship and we're really excited. And, john, thanks for coming on. Pal Justin, as always it's a pleasure.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Jesse, and thank on pal Justin. As always, it's a pleasure. Thank you, Jesse, and thank you, john.

Speaker 3:

So, john, Absolutely, could you give our listeners.

Speaker 2:

A brief introduction on Jumbo Max and why grips are the final frontier in the road to improvement.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, jumbo Max is not your, your usual grip company. We're not a one size fit all kind of grip, we're a grip that fits the player. So, uh, 40 variations of size and weights, uh, over you know, four or five different types of textures, um, we're trying to provide a golf grip to everybody, not just, uh, having people you know have to adapt their game around a certain size golf grip. That's kind of what's been going on for 500 years. Jumbo max, I think, is, you know, gaining some ground in the industry because we're offering, you know, an opportunity to actually get custom fit for a grip. And really what we're discovering is it's just as important to find the right size. Weight is really another critical factor that's been overlooked for years in the golf grip. So happy to dive into that and excited to talk to you boys.

Speaker 2:

Can you tell our listeners what are the immediate benefits of switching to Jumbo Max?

Speaker 3:

Well, if you want to talk about sizing, let's break it down between size and weight because, uh, both are equally as important. Justin, uh, when you get the right size uh grip, you're really able to control your closure rate to optimize your swing. So the big thing about size of grip um, the bigger the grip, the slower the closure rate of the face. We did a lot of studies, gears, golf testing and you know, over the years, and so if you get somebody who's a little overactive with their hands, you can really help them out going to a bigger grip and vice versa with swing path.

Speaker 3:

You can really help a player with swing path by adding a little weight into the grip. You know, the stronger the player, the more important it is for him to be able to find that breaking point. That's really where the speed's at is, when you can stop the grip and fire the head through. So when you add weight to a grip and you put it in a stronger player's hand, they're really able to find that breaking point more consistently to get speed into the ball. Also, a little bit heavier back weighting will allow the club to kick a little bit sooner, so it gets more out in front for a player. So if you have players that are pushing the ball, adding a little weight can oftentimes help, or vice versa, if they're pulling the ball, adding a little weight can help them find the plane and find that slot a little bit easier.

Speaker 2:

We talked of deceleration of the hands. I think a lot of people have this idea that if I have fast hands, through impact that would translate to a higher club head speed. But when we look at the data, it shows that the longest PGA Tour players actually decelerate their hands the fastest.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, that's what I mean by breaking point in the swing or the grip breaking speed. Think about it in terms of a tennis ball and a baseball and the weight of it. If you were to give a baseball to a real strong baseball pitcher in the major leagues and give them a tennis ball, which one will generate more velocity?

Speaker 2:

Sorry, can you repeat your question again?

Speaker 3:

I'm asking what do you think a baseball player, a Major League Baseball player, would generate more velocity with a tennis ball or a baseball.

Speaker 2:

As in, he hits a tennis.

Speaker 3:

As in how fast they could throw it. What could you get better speed with? I would imagine it's the baseball 90 miles per hour Now, if I did the same thing with an eight-year-old kid, what do you think he would get more speed with?

Speaker 2:

Tennis ball.

Speaker 3:

Right, mainly because of the strength, right. So same thing, when you can find the proper weighted grip and put it in an individual's hand, and depending on how he sequences his swing, sequences his swing, some guys uh kind of like jesse for instance, really enjoys a lighter grip to really be able, you know, feel the head and and really uh unload, uh the head a little bit later in the swing. He creates more lag with the lighter grip and he's a hands player, a real smooth swinger. I've played with jesse. So, uh, when you get somebody who are the longest hitters in the world Bryson, martin Borgmeier, you know long drive champions, justin James when you put a little more weight in their hand they actually pick up speed because they can stop the grip faster.

Speaker 2:

So let's talk about weight of the grip. How does that affect the swing weight and how does that affect the swing sequence?

Speaker 3:

So if you add weight to the grip, all it's doing is moving the balance point up the shaft. And we have this random measurement of swing weight at D2 and we've decided that everybody in the universe needs to be a D2 swinger. Well, that doesn't sequence everybody up properly. We find that by adding some weight into the handle you're going to go into the C's. It's a little different than what you might think. You know, the overall club weight gets heavier but the balance point goes up the shaft. So the hands can sequence better with the club head when you move the balance point up for certain people, not for everybody.

Speaker 3:

This isn't just a broad statement that you can say everybody needs a heavy grip, everybody needs a big grip. That's why it's so critical to grip fit. You need to find that sweet spot that allows the player to sequence the best to his swing, the best to his ability. So there's a ton of variations of size and weights, uh of grips, that you can find to maximize a player. That's never been done. All we've really done is taken two sizes or maybe three, uh, over the last several years. Now, oversized and jumbo have kind of come into the conversation in the last 10 years, um, before that it was how small can we make a grip and how light can we make it? So I don't think we really ever understood golf grips and the dynamic of the human hand and the swing of each individual and how they sequence, whether they're hitters, swingers, whether they come from the inside, maybe they come over the top. You can actually optimize a player through the golf grip and I think you know that's kind of the big discovery with Jumbo Max.

Speaker 2:

And would you agree that the idea that in everything in the golf swing sorry, in the game of golf, from the golf swing to equipment is a beauty contest, it's got to fit certain ideals that someone has foisted upon us? You've got standard length, you've got standard loft, you've got standard weight, you've got standard swing weight. I think, with with the granularity of data that we are getting these days, it's it's really causing a lot of people to question, like, is the accepted norms actually optimal for my game? I mean, we just have to look into the back of Bryson DeChambeau.

Speaker 3:

Oh, absolutely, you hit it. Justin Bryson's the best example of somebody that's come along. He's a generational talent, but Bryson's been willing to push the label since he was a young kid. So you know, to be aligned with somebody like Bryson, you know you can't help but to get better. You can't help but to discover. And with today's technology you know it's all numbers-based. We don't have to guess anymore. We know what the closure rate does when you put a bigger grip on. We know what the swing pass does for certain people when you put some weight in the grip. It's science now. It's no longer hey, what do you think? And we're just throwing some grass up into the wind and trying to pick a club. We have precise yardages. We have precise movements through Gears, golf and some of the other platforms that are out there that can tell you exactly what the club face is doing with the skinny grip and what it does with a bigger grip. So it's pretty fascinating what we're able to do just applying the science and today's technology into golf.

Speaker 2:

You mentioned texture. How does texture affect someone's golf swing?

Speaker 3:

Well, I think it's supposed to psychological effect of knowing that you have the optimum uh, you know control the club. So when you can find a grip that really fits your hand, uh, just the confidence factor goes way up. Whether it's a rib grip or a round grip, whether it's a grip or a leather grip, there's a grip out there. That's right for everybody. So that's why we try to cover all the textures. We're developing our leather series and we're also developing you know whether it's you know, the wrap series, whether it's the ultralight series, tour series, the zen light series. We're going to have a corded series. So we want to provide a solution for everybody to not only have the optimum performance but optimum confidence that what they're holding not only performs well but it feels good in their hand and let's talk a little bit about custom fitting.

Speaker 2:

The idea of custom fitting usually is reserved for shafts, where you can screw shafts in and out of adjustable driver heads. How does one apply custom fitting to Jumbo Max grips?

Speaker 3:

Well, I think, if you're able to have the proper setup, you can do it with as little as four to five shafts. So you'd have a variation of grip sizes, let's say, five different variations of you know a let's start with, say, a standard grip, because you need to have a baseline number. You want to be able to get the numbers of whatever the player is hitting at the time. So you have to have something to identify the improvements to. So, once you get a baseline number with a standard grip, we have developed a state-of-the-art fitting app where you would have 200 data parameters. Take a measurement of your hand and it'll place the grip in the part of the hand that we feel is most optimum for each player. So it takes hand size into play, takes the width from your palm to the end of your fingers and all kinds of other data points. So that's the starting point. So you would go to the Jumbo Max app, get that recommended grip size and all kinds of other data points. So that's the starting point. So you would go to the JumboMax app, get that recommended grip size and start with that. Normally, you know 50% of the time that's going to be really dead accurate what you're going to want to do from there is just look for the improvements.

Speaker 3:

You're going to look for a numbers-based solution. So when you're hitting, let's say, it recommends a medium jumbo max. Have you improved? You're looking for miles per hour. We all want to hit it further. So you're looking for speed. But you're also looking for dispersion. We've noted up to 64% improvement in dispersion when you find the right grip, and up to three and a half to 3.67 miles an hour in clubhead speed improvements.

Speaker 3:

So whether you're using, you know, four shafts five shafts you'll be able to go through variations of sizes and we have counterlock weights that you can put into the grip as well. So you can add the weight in and you can add it in as little as five gram increments. You don't have to add 30 grams into your grip right off the bat. So for a tour player fitting, he'd want to go through each size and he'd want to go through each five gram increment to identify the right grip. You don't have to go through all the sizes because you'll identify the right size pretty quickly. That number is going to, you know, show up. So then you're just going to test for the optimum weight at that point to allow you to sequence the club to the best of your ability.

Speaker 2:

I think at this point it might be useful to summarize for our golfers why they would want to use Jumbo Max grips. My question is this If we don't use pencil thin grips on our tennis records, on our badminton records, on our baseball bats and on our hammers, why on earth are we using pencil thin grips on our golf clubs?

Speaker 3:

It just does not make sense uh, you know, justin, I think golf has just been a game of tradition for so long that, uh, you know, when golf was invented there was a hickory stick and leather. You know, somebody wrapped leather around it to not get the? Uh splinters and cut down on calluses and have a better grip of the stick. Well, somewhere along the line we decided that that was the right diameter. When every other sport and every other tool in your toolbox tells you otherwise, it tells you a little bit bigger hand or gives you more leverage and control, whether it's a screwdriver or hammer, you know, whether it's a tennis racket or, you know, even a ping pong. Now it has a larger diameter than a golf grip. So no other sports played with that skinny a handle and I challenge you to climb up a rope with a skinny diameter.

Speaker 2:

Better have really strong fingers?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. So we're trying to control a big muscle game with our fine, fast twitch muscles. When you use a skinny grip, how about we unleash the bigger muscles and give you the leverage and the confidence to go at the golf ball with, with full confidence, full send? You can do that with a bigger grip. You can't do that with a skinny grip. You're you're focusing too much on control and just keeping the club in your hands.

Speaker 2:

Jesse, tell our listeners how, how many miles per hours you picked up just with the grip change.

Speaker 1:

Well, just out of the gate, it was three.

Speaker 2:

Love it. And then as you got used to it. You hit something like 117?.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I got it up to 117 at 54. At 50 what At 54. You know what's funny about the grips in. I mean, it's such a I'll add my two cents in here in my experience with them because I'm playing. I mean, johnny, you fit me with the Zenlite Standard Jumbo which, to give the listener a perspective, it's probably more or less a midsize golf pride grip with a few extra wraps. It's not this big, gigantic thing. So if you have semi-big hands.

Speaker 1:

You're going to be able to handle them. And you know that's a big misconception when I talk about jumbo maxes. Oh, those are those big giant grips. Those aren't going to work for me, you know, unfortunately. That's why we're having this conversation, because there's a ton of them that you've invented, john. But I'll tell you, you know, for me, ben Doyle and those who listen to this podcast and you guys both know Ben Doyle was, you know, the first guy who was the authorized golfing machine instructor from Homer Kelly Long time here on the Monterey Peninsula at Quail Lodge, and I remember him saying to me that dainty is dangerous. So he said that to John, by the way too, and a lot of John Erickson and a lot of his other students.

Speaker 2:

And to me as well.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, Dainty is dangerous, Erickson and a lot of his other students and to me as well, Exactly Dangerous. So he would have preferred, if you're in between clubs, to take the last club and take a rip at it. Now there's, there are dynamic factors to saying this and having it to be true, as you both know, I don't need to go into it here. True, as you both know, I don't need to go into it here. But oftentimes when you're accelerating through the strike, you're going to make a more positive golf swing than just kind of, you know, flaying your way through the strike, kind of cruising it, so to speak. Not not that you know this holds true for every shot, but what I found was that with the weighting of the grip and the diameter of the grip, it subconsciously allowed me to tap into my extra gear more often than not when I need it. And you know I'll give you an example. You know 140 yards is, like you know, a really good nine iron. For me right now it's almost an easy eight. Well, in the winter times it's an easy eight here on the Monterey Peninsula, and I found out a few times in tournament play last year that in order to access a pin and stay away from trouble. I needed to gas this club and just and I never would have hit that shot in my previous grips I never would have said, okay, I need to gas this nine iron. Worst case scenario, I'm a little bit short. I got an uphill putt, no big deal. I would have tried in the past to kind of cruise an eight and that would leave more opportunities for me to over-accelerate, under-accelerate. It was a harder shot to cruise something in there more often than not.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that as a rule, but having the permission subconsciously to know that I can go after something and still maintain my dynamics and my control over my golf swing, that right, there was a massive game changer for me. It was such a game changer and I didn't have that before Jumbo Max Creps. I mean, you know, John, you and I have been friends for a long time and you've always been encouraging me to try. But the proof for me was in the pudding, especially under dress in competition, and that was a real revelation for me. So I'll never go back and, quite frankly, everybody who picks up my golf clubs, they like them. Yeah Well, I mean, these things feel good, you know, wow, they feel nice and heavy and stable and good in your hands.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they go like it. It doesn't feel as strange as I thought it would. Right, yeah, and one of the great benefits that's that people don't really think about is the reduction of stress on the joints.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure. I mean that that's really uh, you know a huge benefit for a lot of people, whether you've already developed arthritis or you're out. You know just grinding, you know the grind is real and hitting all those balls takes a toll. And if you're doing it, you know, at a level where you want to, you know, be a top amateur, you just love the game. It really allows you to go out and hit more balls and, you know, take some of that wear and tear out. A lot of people say they don't even wear a glove anymore after going to our grips. A lot of it is because they finally got the right size grip in their hand and they don't have to squeeze the club as hard as they used to. So you're also taking tension out and minimizing face rotation. I mean, let's face it, that's really the key here. If you can control the face of the club and use your bigger muscles, you've just reduced a lot of the variables in golf, and one thing that you'll always hear Bryson talk about is reducing variables.

Speaker 3:

Part of the reason we go down certain rabbit holes is to eliminate things. It's not just to find something. It's like okay, what do we think about this concept. Well, we got to go down that rabbit hole. Uh, to learn, or you're just basically staying stagnant. And uh, you know, after years of knowing bryson and watching him perform at the highest level, that's one thing I don't think he'll ever settle for. It's just the same old. So one thing that has been consistent since he was 15 is Jumbo Max. So we're thankful for that and, you know, thankful for the opportunity to be part of that journey. And you know, understand better the performance of you, know why the big performance of you, know why the big grip helps, why the heavier grip helps. You know what are the performance aspects of it. We've learned so much. There's still so much more to learn, but to get to the point where you actually go down a road and actually fit people for grips, you know that's been a big breakthrough for us.

Speaker 2:

Coming up on the half-hour mark. Very mindful of the time, could you share with us, maz, who's on the roster and which equipment companies are you tied up with?

Speaker 3:

You know when you say who's on the roster. We got so many different people on the roster, whether it's Senior Tourer Ratif Goosen, stuart Appleby, whether it's Jonathan Vegas I'm hoping he's going to have him on here for the Cognizant coming up I'm going to see him soon. He's been working with him the last two to three weeks. Charles Howell over there on the live circuit along with Bryson. We're fitting new people pros all the time. We have world long drive champions Martin Borgmeier, justin James, Colton Castro, wes Patterson, jason Koch I can't even go on World champion Phyllis Metty.

Speaker 3:

We have the world amateur champion in Long Drive. We just won the Western Championship. Number two amateur in the world, ian Gilligan, university of Florida, all-american. He's going to be a bright star on the PGA Tour, probably starting next year. He's going to be a force to be reckoned with. We have the gentleman that won the PGA Club Pro Championship as well, braden Shattuck. I mean we just won another, our first LPGA European Tour Championship with Kara. I mean there's just so many people. I could go on and on about people that are developing and using Jumbo Max, michael Jordan, charles Barkley, larry Bird. I mean Hall of Famers, goose Gossage. I mean it's just been overwhelming. I mean I get calls all the time from either celebrities or you know all pro football, nba, major League Baseball. I mean it's kind of a who's who at this point, you know. So it's been. It's been a great journey and to see it starting to be accepted into the mainstream is pretty incredible.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome, and equipment companies that have Jumbo Max as an upgrade option.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I mean Lab Golf, la Golf. Every OEM has Jumbo Max as an upgrade option.

Speaker 2:

Awesome.

Speaker 3:

They're paying Cleveland. As a matter of fact, some of the CEOs from those companies play jumbo max. Um, you know, at one point, uh, a few years back, we actually had every CEO playing our brand. Um, you know, they get them into the shop, they tinker with them and they see the improvements for themselves. Nick, uh Sherburn, from club champion, picked up six miles an hour when we fit him and he's a big fan now. So you know, it's just, it's out there for sure, especially when you look at some of the OEMs.

Speaker 2:

Six miles is huge. Six miles is two clubs, two clubs and probably 20 yards on the driver. So that's at least 40 yard improvement.

Speaker 3:

It's not unheard of at all, Justin. It's not unheard of. The average is 3.5. So there are cases where you'll see people pick up that kind of speed. They're freed up. You talk about people that have always had to squeeze the club and don't know what it's like to be able to free up and get that extra speed.

Speaker 2:

You know, years ago ago, sergio Garcia was criticized for milking his grip like 20-30 times before he pulled the trigger. Would Jumbo Max help a player like him? It's obvious that he had some issues with this grip.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's too small, I mean it's just. It's really hard to get the grip to sit in your hand properly when you don't have any surface contact for your palm. So you're searching for that perfect contact point. So you end up getting in the habit of re-gripping, re-gripping to get to that point where you can even pull the trigger, and a lot of that's due to just not having any surface contact in your palm. You know you're trying to grip it, you know with less tension, but you don't have any surface contact to do that with. So it turns into a, you know, finger space grip which requires a certain amount of tension to hold on to it.

Speaker 2:

And for our listeners. You've got nothing to lose, but three and a half clubs to gain. Where can our listeners find out more about jumbo max mass?

Speaker 3:

yeah, the first thing I I think people should really do is download our fitting app, the jumbo max fitting app, and, uh, fit, fit it for yourself, see what grip is recommended to you. I mean, we're in all the big retailers. Uh, our website's fabulous. You can come to jumbo maxcom and check us out. There's a ton of information if you want to educate yourself. Um, also, there's a fitting tool on our website. So we recommend that you get fit. There's a new trial kit that you can get, where you can get the fitted grip. I would go heavy and light. If you're going to try a trial kit, I think it's important to do a heavy and a light test to see where your proper impact is. We've seen impact change dramatically when you have a light grip and you add the weight in to a heavier grip. It does have a big impact for certain people.

Speaker 2:

Thank you once again.

Speaker 3:

Gentlemen, it's great to be on with you guys. I look forward to many more conversations and thank you for helping to educate the public. This is a type of show that's really needed to help get the word out. This is a type of show, uh, you know, that's really needed to help get the word out. You know, I'm happy to answer any questions. Uh, you know, and let's keep doing this.

Speaker 2:

This is really helping the golf community yes, this will be the first of many interviews we envision with jumbo max and I will see you mass at live golf in singapore I'm excited about that, justin, looking forward to getting together with you and learning more about how golf is done over at your end of the world there.

Speaker 3:

So we're excited, awesome.

Speaker 2:

Looking forward, thank you.